Ok the charge boost pressure fault is related to the vanos faults,,,,the vanos faults could be a couple of things but since you just replaced the timing chain maybe the timing is not correct on the intake vanos unit? Did you ever solve this? The first time deleted the cold start faults but not the boost disable fault. https://www.bmwtis.net/tiscode/cgi-bin/bulletin.aspx?sie_path=/tsb/bulletins/htm_store/158. If so, can I buy the warranty for the used car now? https://www.bmwtis.net/tiscode/cgi-bin/bulletin.aspx?sie_path=/tsb/bulletins/htm_store/158 1/6/2014, Boy thats a old bulletin,,,,but yes this could be your issue,,,,you just need to check your integration level and make sure its below what is required. Thank you in advance. Maybe the function test is different with cold start faults present. Any help would be appreciated Did this on the intake side. Click on the BMW wont tell us why some models have problems and some dont,,,,it could be because of horsepower,,,,,you could replace tensioner if you want,,,,,it wouldnt hurt anything, Thanks for the reply i think its 220i and 320i uses the exact engine N20 my F22 2014 car now has 105000kms since its not in the list , in general what do u advice me to do shall i just keep my ears alerted to sounds or u advise me to take to service center and maintain the chain so i can save the engine ? The car started fine the first time and every time since. Ill check my gas cap but I need to clear this code. Thanks for any input. Thanks you! SUBJECT 130304 VANOS, exhaust, control fault, camshaft jammed For information on programming and coding with ISTA/P, refer to Also how does a dealerships diagnose if a vehicle is eligible for extended timing chain warranty? Four months later I got a drive train malfunction that turned on then went away after a day. Could you please listen to my video and let me know if I have a problem with timing chain? Two questions: Should I be concerned about the timing chain/guides issue in her vehicle? I appreciate your help. E84 and E89: I have a 2013 N20 engine in my X3 and want to remove the actuators to either clean or replace. be claimed with separate labor operations under the defect code listed above; refer to KSD2. 130108 Or will my timing chain, etc. 2013 X3 N20 28i. bimmerfest.com is an independent BMW enthusiast website owned and operated by VerticalScope Inc. My car has very low mileage, is in excellent condition and I really enjoy driving it, but this potential catastrophe has me concerned.Thank you for your time & expertise. Hello there. A forum community dedicated to BMW owners and enthusiasts. I guess I can continue to enjoy the car and see what happens or sell it. Got it replaced for half of the price in warranty, consider also the timing chain replace if needed. Table 2 - Engine N20 and N26 Fault codes Model ISTA/P version / Target Integration Level All (see attachment) I12 2.53.0 / I001-14-07-500 or higher Fault codes Model ISTA/P version / Target Integration Level All (see attachment) except faults 2D55 or 131501 E84, E89 2.53.0 / E89X-14-07-500 or higher F10 2.53.2 / F010-14-07-503 or higher F15 . Cheers. During a recent oil change & tire rotation service visit, my regular BMW service establishment (non-dealership) let me know my timing chain was loose and I should get it checked out at the local BMW dealership. 00 00 006 Refer to KSD2 Performing vehicle test (with vehicle Please note the displayed battery voltage reading in the repair order comments section. Yes you can check the oil pressure,,,also when the mechanic performed the timing chain repairs the oil pan was off and hopefully he checked the oil pump screen for and debris and cleaned it out. So your car software level is July of 2019,,,,this is when it was last updated,,,so your car has fairly new software. https://www.bmwtis.net/tiscode/cgi-bin/bulletin.aspx?sie_path=/tsb/bulletins/htm_store/158 1/6/2014 or Its a shame to have to scrap the car. I dont think they will take your picture as evidence,,,,but you could give it a try it wouldnt hurt, Hello- Andreas first and foremost thank you for sharing your knowledge. Dash lights up with transmission gear exclamation point and lift ramp both in yellow. 131501 VANOS, intake, starting from cold: Non-adjustable No one knows what this CDA904 code means. Clean both solenoids and reinstall. What are related problems? I assume that the f31 328i RW could also be affected ? another repair, use the Plus code labor operation 00 00 556 instead. The timing chain & guides are bathed in engine oil, not fuel. Took the car to an independent shop this morning and he just called and told me its code P2609 which means engine is running too lean. I am thinking switching vanos solenoids and see result. There are no timing codes. Tried test with ista for vanos solenoid test removed solenoid stiff does not move when activated. As many have said before, thank you for your very valuable insights and information. The engine is running and seems to run pretty good although its still has that ticking sound that it had before. Tried to read live camshaft sensors read ista says that currenty no data is sent from them to DME. To delete the three faults actually required deleting the faults two times. But when I try to test VANOS data via ISTA it gives no data, only 0. Its hard to say what the problem is with out hearing and driving the car,,,,I dont think the noise is timing chain because that makes a whining noise,,,the only leak could be a exhaust leak but you said the steering also shakes,,,have you had the tires and rims checked make sure rims are not bent,,,also check the rear transmission mount make sure they are not cracked or broken,,,also check the drive belt tensioner could be a problem. Hi, thank you for the reply. During highway driving the car drives fine. Thanks for responding. Is there possible timing not to be correct on the intake vanos unit?! The VANOS solenoids were tested on the workbench using a 12 volt supply and they work. Also camshaft sensors also does not give any data to DME. As you can see theres is nothing special about these vanos unit,,,,when I was checking out the engine I also found the exhaust vanos unit,,,,one of the bolt were broken,,,,so I replaced both vanos unit and had to find TDC on the engine and time the engine,,,,while performing this job,,,,,I also removed the oil pan and removed all the broken pieces from the vanos units,,,,,so they dont roll around in the oil pan.,,,,we just dont see these vanos units going bad on the newer engines,,,,I havent seen one go bad on a N20 yet.,,,,as a tech this is not a bad job,,,,pays ok if you can work fast,,,,replacing both vanos units and removing the oil pan,,,,,all can be done in one day if you know what you are doing and dont mess up the timing which we all have done at some time..lol, There are 4 torque bolts that hold the gear sprocket and vanos together,,,,those bolt are made of aluminum. So far I reset it and it's gone and drove it like 30 miles but kinda worried . Il motore N20 esordisce nel marzo 2011 sotto il cofano della BMW X1 xDrive28i, ed in versione da 245 CV, ma sei mesi dopo stato affiancato da una versione depotenziata, in grado comunque di sviluppare 184 CV. Is it possible to remove the snap ring and take out the VANOS spool valve, spring and check ball for cleaning with the VANOS unit in the engine? The oil and filter were changed along with the timing chain. The year of 2012 was a year of impending upgrades in . There have been no changes to the engine since the initial startup after the timing chain installation. However I did pay out of pocket to replace by valve cover gasket at a BMW dealership 2 years ago. And yes the crank wouldnt rotate after being inserted. Thoughts?? Do you replace the units in such case, or do you know a trick to lose them? I personally know of one person that had a total loss on their X1 engine in Saskatchewan back in 2016 before BMW Canada acknowledged a widespread issue with the timing chain on the N20. https://youtu.be/FQ92t236Utg. This time the desired angle was not a constant as in the previous tests. PROCEDURE Hi, I own a 2012 BMW X1 that recently developed a timing chain problem. Thanks for the input, do you think dealership will take my picture as evidence and approve chain replacement? Im getting error codes 120408 Charging Pressure Control: Switched off. Thank you for your time and expertise. I would just pay attention to any abnormal whine noise,,,,there is no maintenance on the timing chain. Work time (WT) labor operation 61 00 006 requires an individual punch time. Looks all good. Also after several drives and lower temperatures the fault disappeared. Bringing the BMW community together. Changed the solenoid valves. It was somewhat cold today around 20 degrees. I live in France with an x1 e84 xdrive 20i (end of 2012) which does not seem to be on your list. its really a shame that BMW does not step up. Hello BMW technician, I know there is a lawsuit going on with N20 timing chain in NJ District Court Common Symptoms Increase in fuel consumption Poor engine performance Possible misfire on start-up Cold start issues Possible Causes There are several possible causes for this code, such as: Damaged camshaft position sensor Defective crankshaft position sensor The documentation claimed that it would take one minute for the VANOS cold start faults to appear. and as necessary 131501 Variable camshaft timing control (VANOS) intake, cold start: not controllable. Maybe not as loud as before but still noisy. Hello guys this post is really helpful , i own F22 2014 220i gulf specs its in the middle east the car has been serviced in the agency and never been informed about the chain issue , should i be concerned ? 130308 Thanks! Sorry I dont see any video,,,,ok when you say the starter and engine dont appear to make attempt to start,,,,,question does the engine turn over when you are trying to start the car,,,,,question does the engine make any sound when trying to start the car,,,if the engine does not turn over when trying to start car,,,,try and turn the engine by hand from the front lower crankshaft bolt and see if the engine will turn. 131501 vanos inlet cold start not controllable and 120408 boost pressure control cut off pressure rise blocked 2011 x3. and it seems like they are about to settle this case on 9/2/2020. Well, you could, but it's a slim chance you get the length of the rod exactly right. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. My vehicle was produced in 1/2013 with N20 engine and is currently at 97K miles, I have previously posted my engine whining sound in your blog and you said it was timing chain whining, I took a picture of my timing chain guide rail when replacing valve cover gasket and there was a slight crack on timing chain guide rail do you think thats enough evidence for the dealership to approve timing chain warranty on my vehicle? If so, can I buy the warranty for the used car now? Thank you, Rev match I say problem. Question,,,what is a DME clone,,,,is it a used DME?,,,,or a aftermarket replacement DME. Hello and thank you for your various articles on the n20 engine. This documentation is not necessary when part of an approved Technical Service repair procedure; Reduced power" warning, 745i 2002 - Engine Malfunction - reduced power, If this is your first visit, be sure to Im wondering do I need to have the 7/70 warranty to get covered on this timing chain problem? programming and it fails to program correctly or requires initialization, this additional work must Changed the exhaust VANOS. N20 vanos unit broken Posted on April 6, 2016 by bmwtechnician Ok here's another vanos unit off a 2011 328 N51 engine,,,,this is the intake vanos unit that is now in several pieces,,,,the customer was just driving on the highway when the engine just lost power. Seems like the locking pins are stuck. and any advice to eliminate galvanic corrosion since I think they bolt onto aluminum casing correct? 61 00 720 Refer to KSD2 Programming / encoding control unit(s) Even if the engine is warm it still gives these same fault codes. Page 4 of 4 Dont they use the same spec N20 engine just with a slight bump in power for the 28i version? module. Did they use a different timing chain guide before 06/2012 ? The VANOS cold start faults would reappear within 15 seconds of startup. I ask because here ethanol is not too widespread and should not represent more than 1% of vehicles on the gasoline market. Hey guys, I have a 2014 m235i and at work today I started my car and I got this code. Cloning means making full copy of ISN files from original DME and copy it over to use DME, So what happens if the ISN files are corrupted and you just copied it over to the other DMEare the pins damaged on the original DME ,,,or are the connection on the harness damage,,,,we just had a car last mouth where the harness was damaged for the fuel injector signals causing fuel to dump,,,the harness was damaged on the connector for the DME,,,you might have to perform OHM test on the harness to make sure the harness and connections are good. Please help! Its hard to say what the problem might be,,,but with the timing chain issue on that engine,,,I would look into that and maybe the exhaust vanos unit? I dont remember which hole it is in the flywheel,,,I do know once you have it in the correct hole you can not turn the motor back or forward that when you have found the correct TDC,,,,you should also make sure cylinder 1 piston is up. The spark plug have nothing to do with this problem,,,,they would cause misfires,,,I would think you should get some kind of signal from camshaft angle,,,,are you sure everything is plugged in correctly, Hello, My exhaust cam is retarding to the most far point , I time the engine with kit, locking crank, cam shaft and vanos. Since its not on the list, does this mean this timing chain guide failure is highly unlikely? Hello did you ever resolve that issue? One other odd problem during this time was the oil level test did not work. The N20 is a 2.0L inline-4 single turbo engine that replaced the naturally aspirated 3.0L N52/N53. Today my engine shut off while I was driving. 2002 M10 4-cylinder from 1962-1988, and N20/N26 has so many attributes to be legendary. It gave the code 2D61 VANOS Outlet control, position not reached. Can the timing chain issue be identified through scoping? I dont expect we will put more than 5-6k kilometers per year on it. If I reach my finger in through oil filler cap with the engine off and cold, is it normal for there to be some slack in the timing chain on an N20? 2011 BMW 535i [0.00] 535i drivertrain malfunction. These are all pretty standard specs for most modern BMW engines. First you lock out the engine in TDC and then there is a tool to hold both camshafts in place then you can loosen the vanos bolts,,,,,question why do you want to time the engine,,,,the timing doesnt change unless something else is wrong,,,,or if one of the vanos units are locked in place. 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