The hadiths show that there were wells present in that particular spot attributed to the Thamud. Think over this in detail. 12. If anyone has evidence of at least one dead body having been found in the recesses, Im open to change my mind. This is the temple that was built by the tribal unit of Thamd, the leaders of their unit, so that it might be established by their hands and be their place of veneration forever with the support of Antistius Adventus, the governor. What do u think? He sent Prophet Hud (AS) to the Aad, and Prophet Salih (AS) to the Thamud. This also makes it clear that the people were punished. But I digress. . And when you strike, you strike as tyrants.Chapter 26, Verse 130. Possible answer: Their messenger lived before or even during the time of Isa (as), this also the time where this site flourished, but when they denied him, Allah did not destroy them immidiantely. [15], But despite the presence of a tribe called the Thamud as late as the fourth century, sixth-century Arab poets whose works are preserved in post-Islamic sources were already referring to the Thamud as an ancient and long-lost tribe whose very name recalled the transience of all things. Over time, some say nine generations, these people developed a society that was very powerful, wealthy, and influential. Suhih Bukhari_ Book of _ Virues of Al-Quran : THE FIRST PILLAR OF ISLAM: THE MUSLIM PROFESSION O _ ( Istighfar & Tawbah Authentic Dua & Dhikr: What Is the Status of Women in Islam? Prophet Muhammad () descended from Ismail ( ), http://www.imgrum.org/media/1483126817820752683_724804649, http://saudi-archaeology.com/sites/madain-saleh/, The blind companion and killing of the concubine, Islamic identity of Rm (Rome) and Romans II, The Benefits of the Presence of Ambiguous Verses in the Quran, Islamic Stance on Astrology and its related Sciences. Ala-Maududi. 4) That the ORIGINAL dwellings in the valley were Thamuds but Nabateans built them further. We find ruins of so many past civilisations such as Indus Valley (Mohenjodaro, Harappa), Sodom, and so on. I just had the chance to look at the comments now and I dont seem to understand the problem here. So nothing availed them [from] what they used to earn. Dont ever think youre indespensible. They said, "li, We used to have such great hope in you. Heres how Allah describes their punishment. But as well see below, archaeological and literary records place them firmly in Northern Arabia/Jordan, well after the death of Jesus (33 AD). [21] Syrians who belonged to Monophysitic denominations welcomed the peninsular Arabs as liberators. As Suleyman Dost observes, The Qurns reference to rock-cut dwellings fits the picture perfectly with the exception that these carved niches do not seem to have functioned as living areas3, Returning to textual references, Diodorus, a Greek historian writing in the first century BC, mentions a group called Thamoudnoi in North-Western Arabia4. 89:9 is in past tense. Badawi writes: [li] and his followers left the doomed area just before Gods punishment befell them. So, basically during the time of the Prophet (), their remains were not on the surface and only some of them were visible. Aad and Thamud are two of several communities described in the Quran as recipients of Gods chosen prophets and being utterly destroyed for rejecting them. I am sure that is not the intention but it may appear like that. Thamud were destroyed However, that does not solve the dilemma of who carved out the hills and mountains in Petra because the Edomites existed prior to the Nabateans, who according to the Christians were the ones who carved out the mountains and hills of Petra and Madian Saleh in 1st or 2nd century B.C. [4] Historian Israel Eph'al questions the plausibility of Sargon's account, as the briefness of Sargon's account seems to be at odds with the fact that such a campaign deep into Arabia would have been one of the longest wars in Assyrian history, and because no mention of plunder is provided. well) who killed their Prophet AS and hung him inside a well. The story of musa (muses) a.s. _ Magic and Illusi Suhih Muslim _ Book of "End of the World", Who is Musa a.s. (Moses) ? Their early inscriptions were in Aramaic, but gradually switched to Arabic, and since they had writing, it was they who made the first inscriptions in Arabic. They lived in the kingdom of Edom, which is about 200 or so miles from Madian Saleh, where, supposedly, the Quranic Thamud lived, although the Thamud could have lived in multiple areas, including Petra 3. This shouldnt be surprising as the Quraish, and in fact most faiths, do the same thing. Nabateans replaced them and built on them/around them Having similar names doesnt mean much These people incurred the wrath of God and were destroyed. Qur'an and Hadith on Thamud and their Dwellings Abu Rahma / March 22, 2016 It is argued that the Qur'an and the Prophet () made an error in history and facts [1]. Surviving quotations from Agatharchides's On the Erythrean Sea, from the second century BCE, reports that the Thamud Arabs then inhabited a "stony and large shore" of the Arabian coastline, south of the Gulf of Aqaba. and make your home on the heights, 15. God sent down a milch camel as his sign, and Salih told his countrymen that they should not harm the camel and allow it to drink from their well. In the worst cases, they may even go so far as to challenge Allah. I believe neither are in error. Ad and Thamud were two great civilizations destroyed by God due to their excessive wickedness. their country was called Arabia Petraea, the rocky; and their metropolis Petra, the rock: Jerom says that they that inhabited the southern part of the country and dwelt in caves cut out of the rock, to screen them from the heat of the sun: or, thou that dwellest in the circumferences of the rock F16; round about it, on the top of it, in a tower built there, as Kimchi and Ben Melech. The second lesson is to watch out for the signs in our lives. God chose the prophet Salih to warn the polytheistic Thamud that they should worship the One God. [30], In the 12th century, the Arab Ja'alin tribe migrated into Nubia and Sudan and formerly occupied the country on both banks of the Nile from Khartoum to Abu Hamad. 4. Their responses, while snarky, were fairly simple. They were scientists and technicians and craftsmen, so they wanted conclusive proof. [15] A major source of income for these people was the taxation of caravans, and tributes collected from non-Bedouin settlements. The Thamud (Arabic: , romanized:amd) were an ancient Arabian tribe or tribal confederation[1] that occupied the northwestern Arabian peninsula between the late-eighth century BCE, when they are attested in Assyrian sources, and the fifth century CE, when they served as Roman auxiliaries. 1995. International Dictionary of Historic Places. The Qurn mentions the Thamd as examples of the transitoriness of worldly power. They lived in houses carved into the surface of the earth. (LogOut/ Also, 28:40 is referring to Pharaoh and the verse tells us to BEHOLD how Allah SWT dealt with him without us being present to see it. Yusuf Ali: But if they turn away, say thou: "I . Its in their records, that we find out first mention of Thamud. In the Nabataean period, several impressive facades were carved into the hills outside al-Hijr, between the 1st century BC and 1st century AD. (3). And We saved those who believed and had Taqwa. And they used to carve from the mountains, houses, feeling secure. Then, it was not Allah Who caused them any wrong; they . Archaeological sites So bring on whatever punishment you say is coming to us.. And As-Saihah (torment - awful cry) overtook the wrong-doers, so they lay (dead), prostrate in their homes, As if they had never lived there. It was these nine families that cause much of the problems for Salih. what they used to build and what they have built. [34][35] Tribalism is a significant characteristic of Arab population in Khuzestan.[36]. Is their carved construction still there today? There are countless artists, pundits, and celebrities who mock Allah, His Messenger (pbuh), and Islam. And when they did that, Allahs wrath came on them. The Quran itself says that the dwellings of Thamud were khawiyatan during the time of the Qurans revelation. 2. However, as the Christians have proposed an objection to the notion of any other people carving structures in hills and mountains prior to the Nabateans, this leaves the Christians with the following options: (1). He said: ., Do not enter (the dwelling places) of these people unless you enter weeping, but if you weep not, then do not enter upon them, lest you be afflicted with what they were afflicted with [Bukhari]. We have to be open to the idea that a person living thousands of years ago will have a different concept of a place of dwelling than we, in the 21st century, do. Trudy Ring, Noelle Watson, Paul Schellinger. The Quran does not make any claim about the historicity of specific sites, but rather enjoins the believers to reflect upon the many ruins of idolatrous societies throughout Arabia as a lesson in the futility of disobedience to Allah. Missionaries and polemicists seize upon the error of this folklore as an alleged example of the error of the Quran, but in reality, this is not the case. Now we come to the archeological matters concerning the Nabateans. : | _ books. There is no possibility that these were houses. What the Prophet () and the Sahaba went through during Tabuk was overall the joint place of Thamud and Nabateans and more specifically the exact well from where the she-camel drank. Being Dutiful to Parents: Islamic knowledge, The Door to Eternal Paradise: Islamic knowledge. Shaitan (Satan) made their deeds fair-seeming to them, and turned them away from the (Right) Path, though they were intelligent. I will post the links here for now. Thamd, li, al-ijr, Gods She-camel, Arabia and the Arabs by Robert Hoyland, Professor of Late Antique and Early Islamic Middle Eastern History at New York Universitys Institute for the Study of the Ancient World, pg 68. Some of these questions were sincere, but most of the time they were just trying to trip him up. After the given time was over, an earthquake shook the land violently and destroyed the people of Thamud in one cry. 27:52 is in present tense. Thus, there was a latter 'Ad as well, whom some exegetes considered the people of Thamud. Four generations is only about eighty years and its unlikely, in my humble opinion, that they were able to establish a new socieity, invent a new religion, and forget all about their ancestors the Aad in such a short time. One Who missed the Friday Prayer should pray Zuhr: Moving the Finger in Tashahhud : Fatwa Collection_ 40 short hadiths filled with wisdom. The Thamud were scientists. 2) The dwellings of Thamud are elsewhere in the valley of Hijr. The Arabs then could see Thamud dwellings but we today cannot. Nabateans replaced them and built on them/around them, 4. It doesnt speak about being touched or untouched. The Thamud were the successors of the Aad. [17] The Muslim governor of Egypt encouraged the migration of tribes from the Arabian Peninsula to Egypt to increase the Muslim population in the region and to strengthen his regime by enlisting warrior tribesmen to his forces, encouraging them to bring their families and entire clans. So proceed through the earth and observe how was the end of the deniers. (Quran 16:36). That they were better than you in building these fallen down relics 2. What we do know about the Edomites, historically, is that they lived in and around Petra before the Nabateans came. Now today, Thamudic ones have not remained and what is preserved are the Nabatean ruins, Assalam alikum I think what the people are trying to say is if I got this right is that the hadith says dont enter the homes houses of thamud so the verses makes it sound like the houses were still standing tall back then and some non muslims use this hadith to say the muhammad peace be upon him thought that these houses that were built by the thamud but that he got it wrong because these tombs were built by the nabtions not thamud and Ibn Kathir thought the same this is what I think they mean. Jumping the gun, 2. Do you think that there inside of there buildings had to of caved in (LogOut/ [24] These tribes advanced in large numbers all the way to Morocco, contributing to a more extensive ethnic, genetic, cultural, and linguistic Arabization in the region. Therefore, the Aad were a society that sprung up from the survivors of the flood, perhaps some of the same people who rode in the Ark with Prophet Noah (AS). al-Hijr, the second most important centre of the Nabataean empire, is the title of the 15th chapter of the Quran. Both tribes are of great reputed antiquity and, according to traditional Arab genealogists, are two of the four ba 'ida, or extinct tribes. This implies that the carvings in Madain Saleh (which in fact date to the first century CE) are not from the Thamudians, but rather their successors many centuries later in the same area. Assalam alikum so is 89:9 present tense or past tense the altheana jabbu al sakrah bilwadi bit and you are saying that the thamud dwellings have gone destroyed after the prophets time, And Is madain al saleh wadi alQura or is wadi alqura some where else, And do you think there houses were destroyed before or after ibn kathir and could the land of thamud be petra ir yemon because there is a town called thamud in yemon, And does 27:52 mean there dwellings were destroyed or empty and could 89:9 mean there dwellings just of been caves in the prophets the outside gone fallen if you know what I mean and can. While every effort has been made to follow citation style rules, there may be some discrepancies. The points raised by alfinlandi are very reasonable to counter the points of the article. The Nabataean alphabet was adopted by Arabs to the south, and evolved into modern Arabic script around the 4th century. Only Allah knows if this scenario really happened. you who say to yourself, The leftover of Ad were taken and built over by Thamud. Salam. I think some more research is needed to establish where the ruins are that are clearly mentioned in the Tabuk expedition hadith. Ok thanks jazzakkallah last questions and ill leave it at that what do you mean not on the surface and is 89:9 saying the Arabs could still see those buildings because it says (the rocks it uses al the why not just say rocks and what does it mean by rocks does it mean houses or mountains thanks JazakAllah, Thats fine I know that is just the way some people talk I talk to the point because Im using a mobile so I have to keep as short as possible my problem with the verse was normally when it says travel the land or as such its talking about nations close and the nations close to the Arabs were ad and thamud so some say that this verse is saying the quran thinks these buildings were built by thamud but we know they were built by the nabtions not thamud but we know the quran is not wrong so how do we explain that verse jazzakkallah because it makes it sound like that is this verse speaking in the present tense or past like tilka arabic and lam arabic jazzakkallah thanks for the help, Its like the same problem with 40:21 40:82 it sounds like thamud and pointing to these tombs etc but we know it cant be so how do we explain this as well jazzakkallah, And 27:52 because people say this sounds like it as well the kawatan arabic means empty so it sounds like it saying these tombs as well but it is mainly 28:58 I have the problem with jazzakkallah. Man, you must be crazy. (41:13) Vol. [27] Both tribes are of great reputed antiquity and, according to traditional Arab genealogists, are two of the four ba 'ida, or extinct tribes. Success comes from Allah, and Allah knows best. The Quran on the Cerebrum: _ Qur'an and Science. [3] Nigel Groom, Frankincense and Myrrh, A Study of the Arabian Incense Trade, Longman, London and New York; Librairie du Liban, Beirut, 1981, p. 189, pg. Thamud used to carve out rocks in the valley Hud was from among the Aad himself, as Allah mentions in the Quran: Aad denied the Messengers when their brother Hud said to them: Will you not fear Allah?Chapter 26, Verses 124 125. In fact they were pretty snarky in their responses. Yes both Ad and thamud left dwelling places as opposed to some other Nations mentioned in the Quran but again the reference is generic to many other Nations not mentioned in the book that came to other parts of the world etc. [27:49]. This individual was probably a merchant or official in service of the Babylonian court. This is because Prophet Ismail (AS) is often considered to be the father of Arabs just like Prophet Ishaaq/Isaac (AS) is considered to be the father of the Israelites. I do understand why most Christians are unaware of the fine details interspersed within the ponderous and drawn-out book. [13] Adnanites are believed to be the descendants of Ishmael through Adnan but the traditional Adnanite lineage doesn't match the biblical line exactly. The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee And God knows best. Before sending the punishment on them, Allah sent two prophets to these nations. It is argued that the Quran and the Prophet () made an error in history and facts[1]. Indeed, we see in you foolishness and indeed, we think you are of the liars.Chapter 7, Verse 66, Have you come to us that we should worship Allah and leave what our fathers worshiped? Akkadians Even though we dont know for sure how this succession took place, I like to think that perhaps there were a few survivors from that windstorm that wiped them out. The tribes of Ad and Thamud were ancient people who existed on the Arabian Peninsula many centuries ago and were recipients of the Prophets Hud and Salih, respectively. So Allah sent a camel with the simple command: Dont harm her. JazakAllah. Dont ignore them. The earliest abundant references for Thamud in our literary sources are in relation to the Nabataean empire a large Arab kingdom encompassing parts of modern Syria, Jordan, Saudi Arabia (including the Hejaz, the area containing Mecca and Medina) and even parts of Sinai. Perhaps these survivors were Prophet Hud (AS) and his followers. But unlike most of the others, these two stand out for not having any clear counterpart in the Judeo-Christian tradition a wellspring of Middle Eastern traditions, of which Islam draws in so small measure. you who live in the clefts of the rocks[a] The caliphate also allowed the migration of Arab tribes to Egypt. In fact, they are no recognised as Nabatean tombs, resembling the earlier more primitive ones among those to be seen at Petra in present day Jordan, not the late elaborately carved Greco-Roman facades. These include Sunni Huwala and Achomi people, who compromise of both fully Arab and mixed Arab-Persian families. And take for yourselves palaces and fortresses that you may abide eternally?Chapter 26, Verses 128 129. The Tribes of Arabia (Arabic: ) or Arab tribes (Arabic: ) are the ethnic Arab tribes and clans that originated in the Arabian Peninsula. Its also implausible that a people who would be at the helm of such epic architectural and engineering achievements would not even make mention of it, or at least keep a record of it. Saudi Arabia, in terms of archaeology, is really untouched. Or there fallen down relics were better than yours in the past but not better now. What timeline do you think thamud and AD and noah came because they would of have to be closed together and if noah nation was the first to commit shirk then they will have to of come 10 thousand bc because of the gobekli temple in Turkey because they commit shirk 9500 bc. [12] The temple inscriptions (in Ancient Greek and Nabataean Aramaic) state that it was constructed by a priest named dt of the "Thamd of Robath" for lh, apparently the patron deity of the tribe, with the Roman government's support. The tribes of Arabia descend from either one of the two Arab ancestors, Adnan or Qahtan. But the buildings of the Aad are like Lego blocks compared to the Thamud. The title People of al-Hijr was, therefore, that of Nabateans who came much late in history and their period overlapped with Thamud-II, the remnants of Thamud-I, the subject of Quran.[5]. Compounding the confusion is the fact that the tribal name Thamud is applied today to a broad section of different peoples throughout history, not only to those mentioned in the Quran. 13. In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful. When they cut the hamstring of a female camel that God had sent down for them, despite the prophet's warnings, they were annihilated, except for Salih and his followers. And so, when Our command was fulfilled, by Our mercy We saved li and his fellow believers from the disgrace of that day. Im trying to understand the arabic like why do some arabic words have al before some words when we dont use them like in verse 2:36 (But Satan caused both of them to deflect from obeying Our command by tempting them to the tree and brought them out of the state they were in, and We said: Get down all of you; henceforth, each of you is an enemy of the other,50 and on earth you shall have your abode and your livelihood for an appointed time.) in this verse in arabic it says al Shatan why doesnt just say satan instead of if translated the satan because that would sound weird Like Petra, much of the ruins are still hidden, we cant make absolute conclusions unless and until we have access to all of the monuments, tombs, structures, which are still hidden. Pickthall And (the tribes of) A'ad and Thamud! Then do you see any remains?Chapter 69, Verses 6 8. Allah doesnt need you. 41.13-18 Kathir - Ibn Al Kathir. Most decent Muslims would never do such a thing, but there are many misguided people who do. Most scholars interpret this as an earthquake. The Bible does contain verses about a particular nation known as the Edomites, who did carve out structures on mountains and who were destroyed by God. In fact, we even know the scripts they used! Ptolemy (d. 168 AD), describes a people called Oaditai8, bordered by Aramaeans to the north, and Thamud to the south, close to what is today called Wadi Ramm. These two groups are considered to be ancestors to modern day Arabs. And as for Thamud, We showed them the path of truth but they preferred blindness to guidance; so the Sa`iqah of disgracing torment seized them because of what they used to earn. Good reply Adeel. 2. The tribes of Arabia engaged in nomadic herding and agriculture since 6000 BCE. He said, "My people, just think: if I did have clear proof from my Lord, and if He had given me mercy of His own, who could protect me from God if I disobeyed Him? I would be interested in your response to my other points as well. Are these tourist sites now identified at Madian Saleh the same as those we see discussed in the saheeh ahadith during the Tabuk expedition or is that a different location because these sites are identified as built by Nabataens and not Thamud and are considered much later than Thamud people (if we consider the finds to be absolutely authentic that these are Nabataens who built them. It must also be kept in mind that not all of the structures have been found as of yet. construction noise ordinance san jose, government contract specialist, hart's mortuary gray, ga, The doomed ad and thamud just before Gods punishment befell them the tribes of ) &. Be kept in mind that not all of the fine details interspersed within the ponderous and drawn-out book on... 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